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The first three weeks of Yosemite has been painful because Dragon Dictate has not been working properly. It would not read my old profiles and would not let me train a new one without crashing. I rely fairly heavily on Dragon Dictate to do most of my writing/typing so this was a bit of a dud. I was going to write a post on a workaround for this problem, but Nuance released an update today – version 4.0.6 – which fixes the problems. Training is working again and Dragon Dictate has stopped crashing.
Nuance should have had this all worked out before Yosemite was released, but at least we are back in business now.
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Dragon dictate 2.5 problemsDragon ExpressDragon Dictate version 4, is it worth the upgrade?Dragon Professional for Mac – what bugs do we need fixed?Dragon 6.02 – some thoughts on Nuance’s release and testing of Dragon professionalGarysays:December 13, 2014 at 4:36 amThanks. I will now install my early version of DD 4.0 and update and as you say , back in business.
ReplyAlexsays:January 21, 2015 at 11:52 amEven with the 4.0.6 update when I dictate into Word 2011 for mac, Word crashes. It does not crash when typing w/o DD4.0.6.
Any thoughts?
ReplyPatsays:January 22, 2015 at 5:30 pmapple stated it could be fixed by reinstalling MS Word. They wanted to charge $149. My crashes also, it did not do this until Yosemite.
ReplyMalcolmsays:February 7, 2015 at 12:21 amHi Wayne,
Will version of 3.04 of Dragon Dictate work ok on Yosemite?
ReplyRobert Hughessays:April 20, 2015 at 4:09 amI have been using DD for a very long time on a PC and I am new to Mac. I have terrible problems using DD in Yosemite 10.10.3 on an iMac 5k. When I ask it to select text it does not select the correct text. It changes the wrong text after correcting any misrecognised text and it jumps about the page for no apparent reason. It does not recognise the Dragon usb microphone and often will not open my two profiles and I have to add a new one and go through the setup dictation again. It is better with the note pad than with iPages. I do not have word for Mac. Any suggestions? I typed this – it is quicker!
ReplyWaynesays:April 21, 2015 at 4:21 am“When I ask it to select text it does not select the correct text.”
I find that problem too, so I don’t use the select ‘blah’ command as I don’t find it that reliable. Yes it does seems better in the Dragon notepad app.
Strange with not recognising the microphone or the profiles. I’ve never had that problem. TI won’t open a profile without the correct mic plugged in for ht at profile, so they might be related. Is the mic direct into the iMac (no hub)?
ReplyBobsays:May 11, 2015 at 3:53 pmBasically the same problem as Robert as to recognition of the microphone, mine a plantronics usb bluetooth sold to me by Nuance. It seems to recognize it and says it is hooked up, but when you start to try to actually dictate it says it is not hooked up. I have tried about everything that I can think of. I have used Dragon with Windows since it first came out – every update. Bought a Mac and got version 3. They updated to 4 before I really used Ver 3. Charged full price for Ver. 4. If somebody can tell me a software program that actually works, please do and I will dump Nuance after all these years.
ReplyCastoragsays:July 29, 2015 at 12:24 pmBob, I am so with you.
I have just bought the 4.0.6 (because they won’t upgrade my old 3. x) because I upgraded to OS 10.10.4. This has been a pretty terrible experience.
I had to leave behind my huge lovingly-curated vocabulary list because there doesn’t seem to be any way to port it over from 3.x. (If anybody knows of one, PLEASE tell me.)
This version also seems to be markedly more stupid about learning new vocabulary– whenever I give it a new word (that the old version used to know) it takes forever to “update the profile,” meaning I have to stop dead for a few minutes every time I find a new word that I have to teach it…and it doesn’t even learn very well. I can’t tell you how depressing this is.
I have been trying all afternoon to dictate info from medical records into a Pages table, something I used to be able to do routinely. Now for no apparent reason, after several pages of routine entries, the cursor will stop, start jumping around, and erase my last several rows of entries. I can command-Z to get them back, but it’s extremely unnerving. I find if I hit the Stop, then restart, it’s better for a line or two, and then it goes back to doing it again.
Is anybody from Nuance reading this? We are MAD. And I’m with Bob– if there’s something better out there, please tell me.
For what it is worth, I just now tried dictating from Nuance onto Notes, and it worked brilliantly, far more rapid and smooth than onto Word. I have El Capitan.
ReplyAlsays:May 2, 2017 at 7:17 amDragon Dictate does not work with Pages document on macOS Sierra, 10.12.4.
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What's New
- All Apple computers that can run OS X 10.9 Mavericks can run OS X 10.10 Yosemite. Mavericks and Yosemite are similar with regard to Chinese, with ongoing improvements built upon the changes introduced in Mountain Lion.
- Mavericks introduced two new Chinese font families, for a total of ten since Mountain Lion, plus five new TC fonts within the Kaiti and Songti families.
- Mavericks introduced better dictionaries for the Pinyin input methods, better trackpad handwriting (tolerates poor or nonexistent stroke order), and better support for mainland Chinese social media, search, and email.
- Yosemite takes an additional step, introducing 'context-based Chinese input methods,' which take the emerging context of the sentence into account in choosing/ordering suggestions/candidates as you type. This new feature alone makes upgrading to Yosemite from Mavericks a good idea.
- Another addition in Mavericks/Yosemite is the new Simplified Chinese–English translation dictionary (Oxford Simplified Chinese–English Dictionary) for the Dictionary app, which also works with the Look Up feature in OS X.
Installation
In System Preferences.. Language & Region, you will find a list of 'Preferred languages.' Chinese is automatically added to this list when you install the Chinese input methods, but you can also add to the list and arrange it manually. The language at the top is used by the Finder. Adjustments to this list affect the default font behavior in applications that use Apple's built-in text engine, like Mail, Safari, and Pages. Unless you are running the system (i.e., the Finder) in an East Asian language, we recommend the following order: Simplified Chinese (简体中文), Traditional Chinese (繁體中文), Japanese (日本語), Korean (한국어).
Fonts
You will find four Chinese fonts in the /System/Library/Fonts folder. STHeiti Light.ttc and STHeiti Medium.ttc are the Yosemite system fonts. STHeiti Thin.ttc and STHeiti Ultralight.ttc are for iCloud/iOS integration, and not available in OS X. The remainder reside in the /Library/Fonts folder.
Let's start with the basic fonts enabled by default:
| Font name | File name | Foundry | Version | Date | Charset |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heiti SC Light Heiti TC Light | STHeiti Light.ttc | SinoType | 10.0d4e2 | 2014-08-05 | Unicode+ |
| Heiti SC Medium Heiti TC Medium | STHeiti Medium.ttc | SinoType | 10.0d4e2 | 2014-08-05 | Unicode+ |
| STHeiti Light | 华文细黑.ttf | SinoType | 6.1d4e1 | 2010-08-21 | GB18030 |
| STHeiti Regular | 华文黑体.ttf | SinoType | 6.1d2e1 | 2008-11-18 | GB18030 |
| Kaiti SC Regular Kaiti SC Bold† Kaiti SC Black† Kaiti TC Regular Kaiti TC Bold STKaiti Regular | Kaiti.ttc | SinoType | 9.0d11 | 2013-08-16 | GB18030 [?] |
| Songti SC Light Songti SC Regular Songti SC Bold Songti SC Black† Songti TC Light Songti TC Regular Songti TC Bold STSong Regular | Songti.ttc | SinoType | 10.0d1e2 | 2014-08-21 | GB18030 [?] |
| STFangsong Regular | 华文仿宋.ttf | SinoType | 8.0d5e1 | 2012-05-04 | GB18030 |
| LiHei Pro Medium | 儷黑 Pro.ttf | Dynacomware | 6.0d4e1 | 2007-04-06 | Big-5E HKSCS |
| LiSong Pro Light | 儷宋 Pro.ttf | Dynacomware | 6.0d4e1 | 2007-04-06 | Big-5E HKSCS |
† = Limited to the GB2312 character set.
In addition, Apple maintains a set of old Chinese Language Kit and Mac OS 9 fonts, for backward-compatibility reasons. These fonts are hidden in Yosemite:
- GB2312: Hei, Kai
- Big Five: Apple LiGothic Medium, Apple LiSung Light, BiauKai
Finally, there is a set of ten additional Chinese fonts:
| Font name | File name | Foundry | Version | Date | Charset |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yuanti SC Light Yuanti SC Regular Yuanti SC Bold | Yuanti.ttc | SinoType | 10.0d3 | 2014-07-11 | GB18030 |
| Xingkai SC Light Xingkai SC Bold | Xingkai.ttc | SinoType | 8.0d1e1 | 2012-06-19 | GB2312 |
| Baoli SC Regular | Baoli.ttc | SinoType | 8.0d1e1 | 2012-06-19 | GB2312 |
| Libian SC Regular | Libian.ttc | SinoType | 8.0d1e1 | 2012-06-19 | GB2312 |
| Lantinghei SC Extralight Lantinghei SC Demibold Lantinghei SC Heavy Lantinghei TC Extralight Lantinghei TC Demibold Lantinghei TC Heavy | Lantinghei.ttc | Founder | 10.10d1 | 2014-03-22 | GBK GBK GBK Big Five [HK?] Big Five [HK?] Big Five [HK?] |
| Hannotate SC Regular Hannotate SC Bold Hannotate TC Regular Hannotate TC Bold | Hannotate.ttc | Dynacomware | 10.0d1 | 2014-08-26 | GB18030 [?] |
| Hanzipen SC Regular Hanzipen SC Bold Hanzipen TC Regular Hanzipen TC Bold | Hanzipen.ttc | Dynacomware | 10.0d1e2 | 2014-08-26 | GB18030 [?] |
| Wawati SC Regular Wawati TC Regular | WawaSC-Regular.otf WawaTC-Regular.otf | Dynacomware | 8.0d1e1 | 2012-06-20 | GB18030 [?] |
| Weibei SC Bold Weibei TC Bold | WeibeiSC-Bold.otf WeibeiTC-Bold.otf | Arphic | 9.0d1e1 | 2012-12-20 | GB2312 Big Five [HK?] |
| Yuppy SC Regular Yuppy TC Regular | YuppySC-Regular.otf YuppyTC-Regular.otf | Monotype | 1.0d1e2 8.0d1e1 | 2012-06-19 | GB18030 [?] |
Getting Started
Input Menu
Under the Input Sources tab in System Preferences.. Language & Region, go to 'Keyboard Preferences..:
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First, check the 'Show Input menu in menu bar' box:
Then use the + sign to activate the Chinese input methods you want to use and cause them to appear in the Input menu:
Note: 'Trackpad Handwriting' also appears here if you have a multi-touch trackpad. See: Using Trackpad Handwriting with Simplified or Traditional Chinese
Under the Keyboard tab, check the 'Show Keyboard & Character Viewers in menu bar' box for easy access to the Character Viewer via the Input menu.
Under the Shortcuts tab, you will find two keyboard shortcuts listed under Input Sources. To enable them, you'll also need to disable them under Spotlight:
- Command-space [⌘Space] ~ Selects the previous input source. Toggles back and forth between the last two input sources selected in the Input menu.
- Option-command-space [⌥⌘Space] ~ Selects the next input source. Cycles through the keyboards and input methods in the Input menu.
The Chinese input methods will appear right away in the Input menu itself, which appears on the right side of the Menu bar:
To activate a keyboard or input method, choose it from the menu. Its icon will appear in the Menu bar and it will have a check mark beside it in the menu. In the above example, the U.S. Extended keyboard is followed by two Japanese input modes, the two Chinese Pinyin input modes, and the Character Viewer.
Input Methods
Help
Yosemite's built-in Chinese input methods include a full set of English-language help instructions:
To access this Help, select an input mode in the Input menu. Its extended menu will appear, with Help at the bottom. Traditional-Chinese Pinyin, for example, looks like this:
Note: Apple's Help for the Chinese input methods is excellent. What follows below is a general description, not designed to be complete or especially helpful.
Key Sequences
After you have typed an appropriate input string for the input mode you are using, you can:
- Use
shift-spaceto invoke Structural Pinyin. [Pinyin only.] - Use the arrow keys to expand the horizontal Candidate window and navigate the list of candidates.
- Use
tabto change the candidate sorting mode:- Frequency [Pinyin, Zhuyin] = Displays candidates by frequency of use.
- Radical [Pinyin, Zhuyin] = Displays candidates by radical, then number of remaining strokes.
- Stroke [Pinyin] = Displays candidates by initial stroke, then total number of strokes.
- Structure [Pinyin] = Displays 'Structural Candidates' = Structural Pinyin
Structural Pinyin
Both Pinyin input modes provide access to the 'Structural Pinyin' [結構拼音/结构拼音] input mode via shift-space, which covers the GB 18030-2000 character set. Standard Pinyin readings are used for the graphic and/or phonetic components of the structure of the character, usually left-right, top-bottom, inner-outer. These are listed as Chaizi [拆字, 'Hanzi Components'] in the 'Hanzi (Simplified)' section of the Character Viewer.
The purpose of this is to allow you to use Pinyin to input obscure characters that you don't otherwise know how to pronounce. For example, you probably don't know the pronunciation of 龘 (dá), but with a basic reading knowledge of Chinese you can see that it is composed of three dragons [龍 lóng], and thus you know its Structural Pinyin reading is long-long-long.
Note: In both the SCIM and TCIM input menus, this feature is translated as 'Structural Candidates'. The (simplified) Chinese text is 拆字组合的候选字.
Data
The user data for the Chinese input methods is stored in your Home ~/Library/Dictionaries folder. [Hidden by default in Yosemite. Hold down the option key as you access the Go menu in the Finder.] You can reset your dictionary and/or frequency data by trashing the various folders there. Just drag them to the Trash and log out/in.
Plug-ins
Plug-in input methods are easy to install. You simply create a plain-text source file, change the file extension to either '.inputplugin' (for the Apple format) or '.cin' (a common open-source format), and then place it in the /Library/Input Methods folder.
Character Viewer
Note: Use the little icon in the upper right corner to switch out of 'Emoji & Symbols' mode and into the 'Characters' mode shown here.
The Character Viewer is always accessible via Edit > Special Characters.. To input characters into text in an application, just double-click on the character you want.
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The East Asian Scripts heading contains three choices for Chinese hanzi:
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- Hanzi (Simplified) displays the GB 18030 character set by radical-stroke.
- Hanzi (Traditional) displays the Big-5 character set by radical-stroke.
- Han Characters - All displays all of Unicode's CJK Unified Ideographs, Extension A, and Extension B, together by radical-stroke. [Extensions C and D are not yet included here, but you can find them in the Unicode code table.]
The Code Tables heading contains tables for five encodings that include Chinese: Unicode, Big-5E, HKSCS-2001, GB2312, and GB18030. The Unicode table has a block index for Unicode 6.0. The others are strictly by code point. You can use these tables to determine if a given character is in a given character set. Select the character and switch between the tables.
On the left side is the Character Info section of the Character Viewer. You can drag/copy any character from an application and drop/paste it into this section to get information about that character. This includes the input key sequences for the Apple input methods and Unicode code points. Below that is a list of Related Characters, and below that is the Font Variation section, where you can see all available glyphs for the selected character in the different fonts on your system. Click on a glyph to display it and the font's name up above:
TextEdit
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TextEdit 1.10 in Yosemite supports vertical-text layout for Chinese and Japanese. Use the Format > Make Layout Vertical/Horizontal command (also available in the contextual menu that appears when you control-click/right-click inside a document). TextEdit will convert Chinese punctuation to/from the vertical format for you, although the effectiveness of this depends on the font you are using (some fonts are better at vertical text than others).
You can customize the pop-up menu for encodings in Preferences > Open & Save. At the bottom of the menu is a 'Customize Encodings List..' command, which brings you to a checklist of all supported encodings.