Poe Spell Damage Vs Elemental Dmg

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Inc elemental damage increases all sources of elemental damage. So both spells and weapon attacks. Inc spell damage increases all sources of spell damage unless stated otherwise (e.g. Detonate Dead is not affected by Increased spell damage). So both elemental and non-elemental (chaos/physical) damage.

When a Monk makes an attack with their unarmed strike or with a monk weapon as part of their Attack action, they are eligible to spend their bonus action to make an additional unarmed strike (as a new attack, roll again). At level 5, the Monk will be able to make 2 attacks every time they take the Attack action. Unarmed strikes do not count as natural weapons (see Combat). The damage from an unarmed strike is considered weapon damage for the purposes of effects that give you a bonus on weapon damage rolls. A monk or any character with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat can deal lethal or nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes, at his discretion. Monk weapons are the ones you have listed there. The monk weapon's die CAN be replaced by their Martial Arts die, but doesn't have to be. You can totally use a staff to deal d6 (or d8 if you wield it two-handed) and then unarmed strike for d4. A character can use a monk unarmed strike to make attacks even while holding another one-handed weapon in the other hand, and can use the other one-handed weapon to make attacks even if it isn't an off-hand weapon. The Improved Monk Unarmed Strike feat increases the monk unarmed strike's damage die from 1d8 to 1d10. Can a monk weapon use unarmed strike dmg 2.

So what exactly is the difference
If using let's say a fire skill and got 1 item of either 10% spell or elemental increase the damage increase would be the same of either of them right??
And playing as a Witch is your normal attack considered to be a 'Spell' attack with a wand or elemental?
Posted by
SAKRAY
on Apr 5, 2012, 9:24:05 PM
10% spell damage or elemental damage will do the same on a fire spell.
But 10% spell damage will increase chaos damage, unlike elemental damage.
Do you mean basic attack with wand? No, it isn't spell damage. But if the wand deals elemental damage, %increased elemental damage will work on it.
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on Apr 5, 2012, 9:34:40 PM
Ah oke thanks for the quick awnser and chaos damage is a special kind of damage or?
Also to increase wand damage I have to get STR/Pysical boosts?
edit:
Also if your weapon has like 6 cold damage does elemental increase only increase the 6 cold damage portial of the basic atk?
Last edited by SAKRAY on Apr 5, 2012, 9:58:46 PM
Posted by
SAKRAY
on Apr 5, 2012, 9:40:36 PM
Strength does not increase the physical damage of ranged weapons unless you get the keystone passive that allows it to do so, or support your attack skill with it.
Increased spell damage will increase the damage of all of your spells, including chaos spells as was stated.
If you a weapon with elemental damage attached to it, increased elemental damage will only increase the elemental portion, not the physical portion of your attack. However, you can get decent elemental levels on your attacks by utilizing elemental hit, lightning strike, lightning arrow, fire arrow, molten strike, or glacial hammer. These all add or convert a large amount of elemental damage to your attacks, and increased elemental damage will add to all of them (but spell damage will NOT because they are attacks and not spells).
Last edited by Kraide on Apr 5, 2012, 10:10:31 PM
Posted by
Kraide
on Apr 5, 2012, 10:10:10 PM
'
Ah oke thanks for the quick awnser and chaos damage is a special kind of damage or?

yes, chaos damage isn't reduced by elemental resist or armor, and it bypass energy shield.
Some enemies have chaos resist though, but it just reduces the damage a bit, you can still kill them.
'
SAKRAY wrote:
Also if your weapon has like 6 cold damage does elemental increase only increase the 6 cold damage portial of the basic atk?

yes, if you get the %increase ele damage from a passive, it will increase the 6 cold damage on your weapon.
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on Apr 5, 2012, 10:42:22 PM
I know this thread is old but if someone sees it I would be glad to get an answer. so if i understand this correctly. Elemental DMG boost all forms of attacks/spells that have some sort of element in it. And spell DMG only increeses the dmg of actual SPELLS.
I have done a Witch where i go heavy into lightning DMG (dont know if it is good late game or not but i wanna try it). So i can both get spell dmg and elemental dmg to boost the damage of my lightning spells such as spark and lightning trap for exampel?
Posted by
on Nov 9, 2013, 2:18:35 PM
Both spell dmg and elemental dmg will boost the damage of your lightning spells.
Posted by
sydgame
on Nov 10, 2013, 2:10:09 AM
I have a witch doing cold damage. I was told that x% increased elemental damage passives not only increases the cold damage but also increases chill and freeze damage so is better bang for buck than x% increased spell damage passives.
Using Freezing Pulse, Ice Nova and Ice Spear.
Is this right? Thanks in advance.
~DemiDemon~
Playing almost every day since Beta version 0.9.1 in 2011.
Last edited by DemiDemon on Mar 11, 2014, 12:23:46 AM
Posted by
DemiDemon
on Mar 11, 2014, 12:19:10 AM
'
I have a witch doing cold damage. I was told that x% increased elemental damage passives not only increases the cold damage but also increases chill and freeze damage so is better bang for buck than x% increased spell damage passives.
Using Freezing Pulse, Ice Nova and Ice Spear.
Is this right? Thanks in advance.

In short, no.
'Chill and freeze damage' doesn't exist. Chill and freeze duration is based on the damage dealt by the hit that triggered them. Anything that increases the damage of the original hit increases the duration of chill/freeze. No extra damage is dealt to a monster just because you chilled or froze it.
Whoever told you that is getting chill/freeze mechanics mixed up with ignite/burn mechanics.
You're welcome to make a new thread for this kind of thing instead of bumping really, really old ones. PoE has changed a lot since Open Beta started, much less 2012.
Last edited by KG31459 on Mar 11, 2014, 12:54:00 AM
Posted by
KG31459
on Mar 11, 2014, 12:52:09 AM
'
Whoever told you that is getting chill/freeze mechanics mixed up with ignite/burn mechanics.
Thanks for the answer.
Yeah, he had a fire witch and I assumed that what applied to one element would naturally apply to another - my bad.
'
KG31459 wrote:
You're welcome to make a new thread for this kind of thing instead of bumping really, really old ones. PoE has changed a lot since Open Beta started, much less 2012.
Again, my bad. After looking over the site for 20 mins I resorted to Googling the term 'elemental damage vs spell damage' and this was the only result close to what I wanted to know. When it didn't give me quite the answer I needed I thought it better to post in a similar thread rather than start another and end up with even more thousands of threads that are next-to-impossible to search through.
Thanks.
~DemiDemon~
Playing almost every day since Beta version 0.9.1 in 2011.
Posted by
DemiDemon
on Mar 11, 2014, 1:24:17 AM

Poe Spell Damage Vs Elemental Damage

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Weapon Range: 120 Requires Level 30, 119 Int (17-21)% increased Spell Damage Gain (10-20)% of Elemental Damage as Extra Chaos Damage Critical Strikes deal no Damage 200% increased Spell Damage if you've dealt a Critical Strike in the past 8 seconds Without light, there can be no shadow. Jun 04, 2017  If you wish to talk with me or others, join the discord! Discord: In this guide we will be taking a look at Damage Resistances and their importance to your character’s. Spell damage applies to any spells cast by totems, so it will scale both flame and SW totems, elemental damage nodes will scale their respective damages, fire damage nodes will scale the fire damage on flame totem, if you have added cold on a SWT then cold damage will scale that value, but by default SWT is all phys, SWT scales with global phys damage as well as spell but nothing weapon, conditional,. Has your ailment damage stayed the same since the beginning? It should be increasing with% increased ailment dmg. As far as the other damage like Toxic vs Poison, toxic is hit damage, if you increase it or add it to your spell then youll hit more as Toxic damage. The ailment, poison, is. The relevant sources of increased damage will match with the tags on the skill you're using, so lightning spells will all scale with increased lightning damage, spell damage and elemental damage, along with any extra tags like area damage. (A special case is Ball Lightning, which may or may not be relevant to you.

So what exactly is the difference
If using let's say a fire skill and got 1 item of either 10% spell or elemental increase the damage increase would be the same of either of them right??
And playing as a Witch is your normal attack considered to be a 'Spell' attack with a wand or elemental?
Posted by
SAKRAY
on Apr 5, 2012, 9:24:05 PM
10% spell damage or elemental damage will do the same on a fire spell.
But 10% spell damage will increase chaos damage, unlike elemental damage.
Do you mean basic attack with wand? No, it isn't spell damage. But if the wand deals elemental damage, %increased elemental damage will work on it.
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Posted by
on Apr 5, 2012, 9:34:40 PM
Ah oke thanks for the quick awnser and chaos damage is a special kind of damage or?
Also to increase wand damage I have to get STR/Pysical boosts?
edit:
Also if your weapon has like 6 cold damage does elemental increase only increase the 6 cold damage portial of the basic atk?
Last edited by SAKRAY on Apr 5, 2012, 9:58:46 PM
Posted by
SAKRAY
on Apr 5, 2012, 9:40:36 PM
Strength does not increase the physical damage of ranged weapons unless you get the keystone passive that allows it to do so, or support your attack skill with it.
Increased spell damage will increase the damage of all of your spells, including chaos spells as was stated.
If you a weapon with elemental damage attached to it, increased elemental damage will only increase the elemental portion, not the physical portion of your attack. However, you can get decent elemental levels on your attacks by utilizing elemental hit, lightning strike, lightning arrow, fire arrow, molten strike, or glacial hammer. These all add or convert a large amount of elemental damage to your attacks, and increased elemental damage will add to all of them (but spell damage will NOT because they are attacks and not spells).
Last edited by Kraide on Apr 5, 2012, 10:10:31 PM
Posted by
Kraide
on Apr 5, 2012, 10:10:10 PM
'
Ah oke thanks for the quick awnser and chaos damage is a special kind of damage or?

yes, chaos damage isn't reduced by elemental resist or armor, and it bypass energy shield.
Some enemies have chaos resist though, but it just reduces the damage a bit, you can still kill them.
'
SAKRAY wrote:
Also if your weapon has like 6 cold damage does elemental increase only increase the 6 cold damage portial of the basic atk?

yes, if you get the %increase ele damage from a passive, it will increase the 6 cold damage on your weapon.
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Posted by
on Apr 5, 2012, 10:42:22 PM
I know this thread is old but if someone sees it I would be glad to get an answer. so if i understand this correctly. Elemental DMG boost all forms of attacks/spells that have some sort of element in it. And spell DMG only increeses the dmg of actual SPELLS.
I have done a Witch where i go heavy into lightning DMG (dont know if it is good late game or not but i wanna try it). So i can both get spell dmg and elemental dmg to boost the damage of my lightning spells such as spark and lightning trap for exampel?
Posted by
on Nov 9, 2013, 2:18:35 PM
Both spell dmg and elemental dmg will boost the damage of your lightning spells.
Posted by
sydgame
on Nov 10, 2013, 2:10:09 AM
I have a witch doing cold damage. I was told that x% increased elemental damage passives not only increases the cold damage but also increases chill and freeze damage so is better bang for buck than x% increased spell damage passives.
Using Freezing Pulse, Ice Nova and Ice Spear.
Is this right? Thanks in advance.
~DemiDemon~
Playing almost every day since Beta version 0.9.1 in 2011.
Last edited by DemiDemon on Mar 11, 2014, 12:23:46 AM
Posted by
DemiDemon
on Mar 11, 2014, 12:19:10 AM
'
I have a witch doing cold damage. I was told that x% increased elemental damage passives not only increases the cold damage but also increases chill and freeze damage so is better bang for buck than x% increased spell damage passives.
Using Freezing Pulse, Ice Nova and Ice Spear.
Is this right? Thanks in advance.

In short, no.
'Chill and freeze damage' doesn't exist. Chill and freeze duration is based on the damage dealt by the hit that triggered them. Anything that increases the damage of the original hit increases the duration of chill/freeze. No extra damage is dealt to a monster just because you chilled or froze it.
Whoever told you that is getting chill/freeze mechanics mixed up with ignite/burn mechanics.
You're welcome to make a new thread for this kind of thing instead of bumping really, really old ones. PoE has changed a lot since Open Beta started, much less 2012.
Last edited by KG31459 on Mar 11, 2014, 12:54:00 AM
Posted by
KG31459
on Mar 11, 2014, 12:52:09 AM
'
Whoever told you that is getting chill/freeze mechanics mixed up with ignite/burn mechanics.
Thanks for the answer.
Yeah, he had a fire witch and I assumed that what applied to one element would naturally apply to another - my bad.
'
KG31459 wrote:
You're welcome to make a new thread for this kind of thing instead of bumping really, really old ones. PoE has changed a lot since Open Beta started, much less 2012.
Again, my bad. After looking over the site for 20 mins I resorted to Googling the term 'elemental damage vs spell damage' and this was the only result close to what I wanted to know. When it didn't give me quite the answer I needed I thought it better to post in a similar thread rather than start another and end up with even more thousands of threads that are next-to-impossible to search through.
Thanks.
~DemiDemon~
Playing almost every day since Beta version 0.9.1 in 2011.
Posted by
DemiDemon
on Mar 11, 2014, 1:24:17 AM

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